Sunday, 13 November 2022

 

Understanding 1 Peter 3:19-20




For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,  in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison,  because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.

 [1 Peter 3: 18-20]


1)     INTRODUCTION

1 Peter 3:19-20 are two of the most contentious verses in scripture; it is always good to start with a big bold statement! What is Peter saying here? One of the challenges of reading all the way through a book of the Bible verse by verse is we have to deal with those passages which, if it were down to us, we would prefer to gloss over or ignore. This passage is all the more challenging because we have no problems with verse 18; it is a wonderful verse and in that verse we have the whole power and simplicity of the gospel: Christ died for us and through his death we are made alive and bought into relationship with the Father. How easy, how simple it would be to end there, but Peter does not, he carries on talking about Jesus proclaiming to spirits in prison that did not obey God’s word. ‘Prison’ here means hell, and so we have all these questions about who is Jesus preaching to? Why is he preaching, and how does that square with our wider theology of Christ’s death and resurrection.

Well let’s start with a couple of principles that we should hold in mind as we explore this passage.


2)     FOUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES

      1) The central truths of salvation are not being questioned here

Different people may have different interpretations on this passage, and you may not ultimately agree with my interpretation, and that is fine. No one he is doubting that Jesus died a real death was buried, was rose again, and through that act secured our eternal salvation. That is a truth that defend against any other message. Our salvation does not depend on verses 19 and 20, but it does depend on verse 18, and so whilst all the Bible is important and vital for our growth…

 “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness.” 

[ 2Timothy 3:16]

…some verses do carry more weight and so it is ok to discuss and maybe even have different views on verses 19 & 20:

2)     We do not build our theology on one verse

A basic principle of understanding and interpreting scripture is that scripture will affirm scripture, and that means that an idea or doctrine will not be confined to a single verse but will be expressed in many other places. What makes these two verses challenging is that they seem to express an idea that we do not really find expressed elsewhere is scripture. That does not make Peter wrong, but it means we must tread carefully and interpret the verse in the light of what we find elsewhere in scripture.

3)     Not everyone sees a difficulty in the passage

Many people don’t see any problem with these verses; they are just part of the wider narrative of Peter’s letter, but as a church that believes in the centrality of God’s word we should teach into every passage, not just the ones we are comfortable to familiar with.

4)     Verses must be taken in context

It is dangerous to take a verse, even verses, and interpret them with no reference to the occasion and circumstance they were written. Some verses, particularly those concerning our salvation are timeless and do not need further ‘grounding’ in the context of where they were written. Take John 3:16 for example

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

We do not need to know the circumstances under which John wrote his gospel, or who his intended readers were, or even to closely examine the verses either side of this (although that is still a good exercise to engage in) to appreciate and understand the verse. For many other verses and passages, this passage in 1 Peter for example, the context does help tremendously in understanding the verse, and this is an idea we will come back to later.

 

5)     FOUR POSSIBILITIES

Well, let’s start to explore this verse. There are probably four main ways to interpret the passage, although I am sure there are many more. We’ll list them first and then examine them each in more detail:

·        Jesus is in hell, proclaiming his victory to demonic forces

·        Jesus is preaching to men and women in a conscious intermediary state

·        Jesus is preaching to men and women in an unconscious intermediary state

·        Jesus is proclaiming the truths of God in are more timeless way

A literal reading of the passage suggests that between his death and resurrection Jesus was in hell preaching:

he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison

In the first option it is to demonic forces, in the second and third it is to men and women (which raises all sorts of other questions -as we will see). However, there is a fourth option where Peter is talking in a more metaphorical or timeless way, and so Jesus is not literally in hell or preaching in hell.

So, let’s look at these different ideas in turn.


4a) Jesus is in hell, proclaiming his victory to demonic forces

An initial reading of this passage will tend to lead us to this conclusion. It does seem to be the simpler and more logical idea. After his death Jesus descends to hell where he proclaims his victory. He declares the truth to those evil forces that believe they have triumphed by killing the Son of God, but he rises on the third day, declaring his victory and showing that death has no hold.

It is an idea that ingrained and out thinking and reinforced by so much of what we read and sing, but for that reason we must be careful to build our theology on God’s words alone and not men’s words however well-intentioned they may be. As we have already said the idea of Jesus descending to hell for three days is not something we see expressed elsewhere in scripture.

Yes, Christ conquered death, yes, he showed that death has no hold on him and therefore no hold on us, but did he need to descend to hell to show that?

This idea is found very clearly expressed in the Apostles Creed, which was an early (4th or 5th century confession of basic Christian truth). It states there, talking of Jesus:

“Who suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried, descended into hell, rose again from the dead on the third day”

But the Apostles Creed, as powerful, and true, a declaration of faith as it is, is man’s words and therefore not infallible as scripture itself is. This idea comes to us with the weight of history and tradition more than it does through clear biblical interpretation, and like any document an inaccurate or incomplete translation can lead to errors.  Most English translations say; “he descended into Hell.” but the Greek says: katelthonta eis ta katōtata. The Greek word katōtata simply refer to a very deep place, not necessary a physical place.

And the same idea is expressed in Philippians 2 as Christ's descent being linked with his suffering and humiliation rather than a destination.

And just as an aside, we must still affirm the power of such confessions. I personally have no problem in declaring this out loud and affirming ever sentence, even if I believe there is something more here.

Perhaps the question we should ask is “Where was Jesus in the three days between his death and resurrection. One option is of course that he was ‘asleep’, ‘unconscious’, ‘unable to partake in any activity’ until he rose on the third day (but that really invalidates 1 Peter 3:19-20 which suggests, no matter what we finally decide on, that Jesus was doing something.

This first option answers this question by saying Jesus was in hell, preaching to demons, but where does Jesus himself say he will be?

Jesus was crucified with two thieves. One mocked him but the other acted differently:

And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” And he [Jesus] said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.” 

[Luke 23:43-44]

At such a poignant moment Christ is not going to talk in metaphors, here is a simple statement from the King of Kings that on that moment of death they would both be in heaven.

Jesus does not need to preach this to demons, it is demonstrated by the fact of his resurrection.

We can say, at least in a poetic sense, that ‘death could not hold him’ or ‘up from the grave he arose’, or even:

God raised him up, losing the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held by it.    

[Acts 2:24] 

but to say ‘Hell’ could not hold him conveys, apart from in the most symbolic or metaphorical of ways, may be a step to far.

So what other options are there?

 

4b & c) Jesus is hell preaching to men and women in an intermediary state




Perhaps our options would be easier if Peter had simply his sentence with,

 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison…  

If Peter had ended there, we could more easily imagine that he was talking literally of evil spirits, of demons, but Peter goes on to talk of Noah:

…because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.

There is something here about the message coming not to demons, but to men and women, and also to men and women of a far earlier age and are now dead. And so, there are ways to interpret this passage along the lines of Jesus speaking to men and women. There is a clear description of those who were disobedient to the word and so the idea here is that men are women who were unrepentant in their lives and are now in hell, and now releasing the error of their ways as Jesus declared the truth to them again, this time in victory

There were two ideas mentioned earlier and I want to take these two together, because whilst there are differences, they are perhaps two options we can dismiss more easily (although I am sure there are some who would want to hold to this definition). When I talk of an ‘intermediate’ state I refer to an idea that we would not really accept with our reformed theology, but others, particularly those of the Catholic faith would hold to a ‘middle ground’ where souls go upon death to await final judgement. The Catholic term is purgatory, and the key idea here is that the soul’s final destination for all eternity is not yet decided; heaven and hell are still in the balance. As so whilst we, with our more protestant theology would not offer up prays for those that have died, Catholics would – seeing it as a way of ‘tipping the scales’ in the direction of heaven being the final verdict.

Now, those souls can either be conscious (aware of their surroundings and awaiting that final decision) or unconscious (asleep) as they await the final judgement. I do not want to dwell too much on this idea or the distinction between them as it is an option we should dismiss:

Just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment 

[Hebrews 9:27]

The whole weight of scripture suggests there is no ‘second chance’ or to still repent after death. The parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31) is allegorical in many ways; The rich man is unlikely to have ‘seen’ Abraham and Lazarus; nor would Abraham have been able to speak to the Rich Man in hell. Rather the parable is told to illustrate the clear truth that there is one chance for repentance, and that come in this life. The crystal-clear truth of what Jesus is explaining is summed up in verse 26: 

And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.

[Luke 16:26]

If we hold, as we must, to the truth that there is no ‘second chance’ for repentance then Jesus doing so would at best be pointless and at worse, declaring a truth to people who now had no ability to respond, and therefore, whilst not explicitly mentioned, we must dismiss the idea that Jesus is preaching to lost souls in hell, where hell as their final destination and they are beyond all hope of redemption. 

What then of this fourth option?


4d) Jesus is proclaiming the truths of God in are more timeless way

This paper came in response to a preaching series on 1 Peter and we came to this passage as part of studying the letter as a whole. This is what I meant earlier by understanding a verse in its context. And so rather than just ask what does 1 Peter 3:19-20 mean, we should be asking what is the message Peter is conveying through all five chapters of his letter?

Peter is writing to Christians who are suffering persecution and have been scattered to various locations as a result. He is, in part, writing to assure them they are still part God’s plan and purpose and their share with Christ as strongly as those from the generation before than that might have physically walked with Jesus or literally heard his teaching.

Peter is assuring his readers that they have not ‘missed out’ on being with Jesus by being born a mere generation after his death. The message is timeless, as Jesus did not just speak for the three-year period of his ministry but has been speaking through all time. He speaks to us today, and he spoke to Noah’s generation. Jesus speaks through the Holy Spirit to every generation proclaiming this same message. The 1 Peter passage speaks of Jesus being alive in the Spirit and in the spirit preaching to all generations. Peter is not saying the people of Noah’s generation who did not repent are now in hell and haring the gospel again, rather he is saying the people of Noah’s generation heard the same gospel you have heard, whilst they were alive and able to repent, preached through the Holy Spirit. The tragedy is of course that not all responded to that most powerful of words, indeed only eight were saved, but those who did not respond still heard that same gospel and none could say “but we did not know, or we did not hear."

We can even say Noah was bringing Christ's message to his generation as he preached in the power of the Spirit. Peter seems to almost start his letter with this idea that there is a timeless declaration of the gospel through the prophets:

Concerning this salvation, the prophets who prophesied about the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired carefully, inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was indicating when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glories.

[1 Peter 1:10-11]

Peter’s encouragement to his readers is the message of Jesus is both timeless – touching all generations, and that it is something they too have been called to participate in as prophets to their generation:

 but in your hearts honour Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect.

 [1 Peter 3:15]


5)     SUMMARY

In summary can I remind you of a couple of things that were mentioned earlier. Firstly, this is my personal understanding of the passage in as far as I have sought God on this subject and understood it, but I could be wrong. I am open to other explanations and am happy to discuss this further, in person or you can aways add comments below in response. Our salvation does not depend on how we interpret these verses, and for that reason we do have scope to explore different interpretations and long as we do that with openness and humility.

Secondly, I said earlier, and want to affirm again, this was not written primarily to start a debate on the nature of heaven and hell, or the final judgement of those who do not respond to the gospel. These are in themselves really important and serious questions, and if you do want to discuss more about these or other topics in the Christian faith then do reach out to us. Those truths are taken here as given so that we can explore 1 Peter 3:19-20.

And then lastly. It would been so easy to have not opened up the passage and possibly start a debate or discussion, but if we want to be Christians who declare the primacy of the word of God then we must do this with any and all passages that cause us to stop and ask; “what is being said here, what does this really mean?” Only in this way can we grow in our understanding of God’s word.

God bless you all

Ken


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